Handlebar sizing ... found this on KTMTalk
Handlebar sizing ... found this on KTMTalk
I figure that since we have discussed new bikes, perhaps mods to the bikes we have or will have would be in order.
So, here I go starting a thread on sizing of handlebars ...
(Of course Troy seems to be a developing expert at resizing his handlebars mid-ride!)
From: http://ktmtalk.com/index.php?showtopic= ... &p=1837595
"If you haven't ordered yet, you can work backwards to get your fit. Sit on your bike in your normal riding position. Sit up straight. Hold your hands above your head with your elbows bent, close your eyes, and drop your hands towards your bars in that normal riding position. don't try to guess where the grips are, just drop your hands naturally. If they hit your grips, your bars are correct for you. If your hands don't hit your grips, then that is where your grips need to be. Measure backward to get some specs for new bars. Also, consider the angle of your hands with neutral wrists for sweep angle.
Standing position, sometimes called the attack position, is knees bent, elbows bent, balanced with the ball of your feet on your pegs, and your head in a neutral alignment. Bar position may be a compromise between standing and sitting, but I have always considered the standing postition more important since that is when the suspension is taking big hits. that's why your'e standing. I doesn't matter if your bars are an inch or two high or low when you are sitting, but if the bars are too low when you are standing, you are putting stress on your back, as mentioned by wannabeeuro, and you are not balanced."
What say the rest of you?
mike
So, here I go starting a thread on sizing of handlebars ...
(Of course Troy seems to be a developing expert at resizing his handlebars mid-ride!)
From: http://ktmtalk.com/index.php?showtopic= ... &p=1837595
"If you haven't ordered yet, you can work backwards to get your fit. Sit on your bike in your normal riding position. Sit up straight. Hold your hands above your head with your elbows bent, close your eyes, and drop your hands towards your bars in that normal riding position. don't try to guess where the grips are, just drop your hands naturally. If they hit your grips, your bars are correct for you. If your hands don't hit your grips, then that is where your grips need to be. Measure backward to get some specs for new bars. Also, consider the angle of your hands with neutral wrists for sweep angle.
Standing position, sometimes called the attack position, is knees bent, elbows bent, balanced with the ball of your feet on your pegs, and your head in a neutral alignment. Bar position may be a compromise between standing and sitting, but I have always considered the standing postition more important since that is when the suspension is taking big hits. that's why your'e standing. I doesn't matter if your bars are an inch or two high or low when you are sitting, but if the bars are too low when you are standing, you are putting stress on your back, as mentioned by wannabeeuro, and you are not balanced."
What say the rest of you?
mike
Safiri Mike
Current: 01 F650-GSDakar-RWB; 02 EXC-453 (orig. MXC 400); 05 EXC-450 ; 13 CRF-250L; 17 CRF-125FB; 06 KLX-110 (132); 02 TTR-125L
Gone and missed (but no regrets): 01 LC4E-400-Grey
Gone and not missed: 73 AT3, 85 K100RS
Current: 01 F650-GSDakar-RWB; 02 EXC-453 (orig. MXC 400); 05 EXC-450 ; 13 CRF-250L; 17 CRF-125FB; 06 KLX-110 (132); 02 TTR-125L
Gone and missed (but no regrets): 01 LC4E-400-Grey
Gone and not missed: 73 AT3, 85 K100RS
When you need to order handlebars, figuring out what size and type seems to be a magical art form to me! I would agree that the fit of the bar when standing is more important than the sitting fit.
For my DR350SE, I've ordered a new handlebar, riser adapters, and a swanky replacement top clamp that has "wings" to mount my new trick handguards. All the kids on the playground will be jealous when they see how I roll.
For my DR350SE, I've ordered a new handlebar, riser adapters, and a swanky replacement top clamp that has "wings" to mount my new trick handguards. All the kids on the playground will be jealous when they see how I roll.
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whooaa.....it's gett'n hot in here! Look what you started Mike.troy wrote:I'll slow down so you can get a look as I pass you trying to kick-start your over-heated beast.Hayden wrote:You have to be close enough for me to see you so I can be jealous. Sorry no rear view mirrors on the XRR.
Hayden
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All I did was put up a post about handlebar sizing ... with a very small dig on Troy and his recent misadventures.KC wrote:whooaa.....it's gett'n hot in here! Look what you started Mike.
Tracy must have a burr in his saddle or something ...
That I said, I am enjoying where the thread has gone!
Safiri Mike
Current: 01 F650-GSDakar-RWB; 02 EXC-453 (orig. MXC 400); 05 EXC-450 ; 13 CRF-250L; 17 CRF-125FB; 06 KLX-110 (132); 02 TTR-125L
Gone and missed (but no regrets): 01 LC4E-400-Grey
Gone and not missed: 73 AT3, 85 K100RS
Current: 01 F650-GSDakar-RWB; 02 EXC-453 (orig. MXC 400); 05 EXC-450 ; 13 CRF-250L; 17 CRF-125FB; 06 KLX-110 (132); 02 TTR-125L
Gone and missed (but no regrets): 01 LC4E-400-Grey
Gone and not missed: 73 AT3, 85 K100RS
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As you know, I was using the same Enduro Engineering handguards on my bike. I went cheap and replaced my old bars w/ Moose 7/8" steel bars. The Enduro Engineering guards won't fit the steel bars because the inside diameter is much larger vs aluminum bars. I replaced them w/ the Acerbis Rally Pro handguards because they have a universal mounting kit to fit both steel and aluminum bars and an optional kit for oversized bars. The Acerbis bar inserts are a much better design and lock in tighter than the Enduro Engineering ones, IMO. You say you have some new "trick handguards"...what's that?? I was gonna remind you that I had an extra set of guards in case you needed spare parts, oh well!troy wrote:When you need to order handlebars, figuring out what size and type seems to be a magical art form to me! I would agree that the fit of the bar when standing is more important than the sitting fit.
For my DR350SE, I've ordered a new handlebar, riser adapters, and a swanky replacement top clamp that has "wings" to mount my new trick handguards. All the kids on the playground will be jealous when they see how I roll.
2017KTM 500EXC, 2009 KTM 300XCW
Honda XR 650 R.tim wrote:whats an XRR? Air cooled Race Replica?
Far different than the Honda XR 650 L.
Both of which Tracy owns and runs with us.
Safiri Mike
Current: 01 F650-GSDakar-RWB; 02 EXC-453 (orig. MXC 400); 05 EXC-450 ; 13 CRF-250L; 17 CRF-125FB; 06 KLX-110 (132); 02 TTR-125L
Gone and missed (but no regrets): 01 LC4E-400-Grey
Gone and not missed: 73 AT3, 85 K100RS
Current: 01 F650-GSDakar-RWB; 02 EXC-453 (orig. MXC 400); 05 EXC-450 ; 13 CRF-250L; 17 CRF-125FB; 06 KLX-110 (132); 02 TTR-125L
Gone and missed (but no regrets): 01 LC4E-400-Grey
Gone and not missed: 73 AT3, 85 K100RS
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So Is this the aluminum guards with Evolution deflectors or do you have the big tall deflectors?
http://www.enduroeng.com/onlinecatalog. ... Components
http://www.enduroeng.com/onlinecatalog. ... Components
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They are the tall, white deflectors.Hayden wrote:So Is this the aluminum guards with Evolution deflectors or do you have the big tall deflectors?
http://www.enduroeng.com/onlinecatalog. ... Components
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I'm still pondering that Troy's bars have "wings". Some people hang deer antlers on the wall, I figure my collection of handlebars are trophies also....some of us could add crutches and rib wrappings. Not to mention names or anthing
""She'll never understand" (the love of motorcycles)
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Sorry to all! I work out of town most of the time, so I may not respond for several days. I usually have my laptop w/ me but don't always have daily internet access.troy wrote:They are the tall, white deflectors.Hayden wrote:So Is this the aluminum guards with Evolution deflectors or do you have the big tall deflectors?
http://www.enduroeng.com/onlinecatalog. ... Components
Thanks Bro...for keeping me on track sometimes!!
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